so it's a big night for both president obama as well as governor romney. >> did you hear him sigh? were you backstage like stop sighing? >> i heard it the first time. by the third time i pretended not to listen. but more importantly, once they put up that split screen, then you looked at he was rolling his eyes and of course, it was not a pretty moment. but we came back in the second debate. >> that's when the democrats started sighing, too, right after al gore. mitt romney has to demonstrate he's changed. there are a lot of voters in this country who are unsatisfied with barack obama. they think we could do better. they don't know that mitt romney is that change. neither of these guys has told us what the next four years could be like because of the changes they would bring. >> and that's i think another challenge that mitt romney has on wednesday night. that is to finally lay out some plans. he's been talking a lot about i have solutions, i know how to get the economy moving, but he really hasn't given us a concrete beyond the 59 points, the five points -- >> neither has our pres